Thread: Red Cross: Video Gamers are War Criminals

First comment summed it up pretty well:

Oh do $#@! off, surely there are some very REAL war crimes you should be worried about rather than pissing and moaning over how many points a kill is worth in a videogame, what's next? The government complaining over the lack of stamp duty when you purchase a house in Monopoly?

So.... virtual people, who are not alive, but are virtual, and aren't alive.... should be treated with the same "humanitarian" laws as real people... who ARE alive.

I have a problem with someone setting up boobytraps and using weapons intended to maim on real people. I have a problem with REAL people killing each other no matter what, it's dumb. But virtual people? Goodbye Farcry, you can set up boobytraps. Goodbye Bioshock, there are lots of "fun" maiming-type weapons there. Goodbye lots of everything. Guess it's time for everything to be Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

Once again an idiot organization is going to blame video games for bad things happening in real life? Gamers are not idiots, we know the difference between right and wrong. We know it is wrong to go out and shoot some random person, to trap an entrance with a trip wire mine...etc. Video games are nothing but virtual images, not real life. This "investigation" is just another bull$#@! waste of money that could go do something else, but they have to use it to investigate if we are violating the rights of the games AI. I was absolutely disgusted with the video they presented, they take a beautiful song like that and pull a Michale Moore on it showing images from games trying to demonize them. I will be so glad when their generation is long since dead, then maybe just maybe this world can pull it's head out of it's ass and get on a better road than we already are.

I don't think I could've said it any better than Rhojin did... This $#@!'s been tried several times over, each time ending in complete failure. All of the money these organizations are expending towards things like this could be much better used, instead of throwing out thousands of dollars chasing fantasies.

Also,

Originally Posted by reechard

So.... virtual people, who are not alive, but are virtual, and aren't alive.... should be treated with the same "humanitarian" laws as real people... who ARE alive.

I have a problem with someone setting up boobytraps and using weapons intended to maim on real people. I have a problem with REAL people killing each other no matter what, it's dumb. But virtual people? Goodbye Farcry, you can set up boobytraps. Goodbye Bioshock, there are lots of "fun" maiming-type weapons there. Goodbye lots of everything. Guess it's time for everything to be Hello Kitty Island Adventure.

Goodbye just about all of the gaming industry... The vast majority of popular games (i.e. the Battlefield series, Call of Duty, Crysis, Left 4 Dead, BioShock, etc.) all involve the mindless slaughter of anyone the game tells you to kill, through whatever means you have available.

Originally Posted by Rhojin

Once again an idiot organization is going to blame video games for bad things happening in real life? Gamers are not idiots, we know the difference between right and wrong. We know it is wrong to go out and shoot some random person, to trap an entrance with a trip wire mine...etc. Video games are nothing but virtual images, not real life. This "investigation" is just another bull$#@! waste of money that could go do something else, but they have to use it to investigate if we are violating the rights of the games AI. I was absolutely disgusted with the video they presented, they take a beautiful song like that and pull a Michale Moore on it showing images from games trying to demonize them. I will be so glad when their generation is long since dead, then maybe just maybe this world can pull it's head out of it's ass and get on a better road than we already are.

I agree with everything in this post, however, I also think it would be interesting if a game allowed people to take POWs instead of just killing a guy with like 4 health left, perhaps even give more points if you do so. For example, in Battlefield 3, you find a sniper hiding and you sneak up behind him. Instead of stabbing him or shooting him, you pull out a piece of cord and knock him unconscious and tie him up or something. So you get 50/100 points for knocking him out, and 100 for tying him up. Of course, it shouldn't be forced upon a developer to do this, it should be done if they feel like it.

Just ignore it. They've lost all their credibility as a humanitarian organization now. If they don't cut out the part of their organization responsible for this they'll end up at the same level as PETA.

Originally Posted by 13thforswarn

I agree with everything in this post, however, I also think it would be interesting if a game allowed people to take POWs instead of just killing a guy with like 4 health left, perhaps even give more points if you do so. For example, in Battlefield 3, you find a sniper hiding and you sneak up behind him. Instead of stabbing him or shooting him, you pull out a piece of cord and knock him unconscious and tie him up or something. So you get 50/100 points for knocking him out, and 100 for tying him up. Of course, it shouldn't be forced upon a developer to do this, it should be done if they feel like it.

That was one thing you could do in Front Mission 3 on the PSX.
If you defeated other enemies, then managed to destroy both arms, and the legs of an enemy, then surround him, then he'd surrender